Dishwasher Install
- Rob R.
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So this week my 10+ year old dishwasher decided to start leaking. Not from the doorseal, somewhere under the tub. This is the third issue I have had with it in a year, so Happy New Year to me...a new one is coming tomorrow. Maybe this will be what finally gets the house to sell. Tonight I figured I would get a jumpstart on things and remove the old one...simple right?
Issue 1. Gate valve in dishwasher water supply is seized.
Solution: Gently turn handle with wrench and snap handle off.
Solution: Remove shards of handle, close valve with vice grips.
Issue 2. Upon removing the plastic hose from the dishwasher, I discover that the "closed" gate valve is still allowing water to leak by.
Solution: Quickly grab dish towels to stop flood, run into the basement and torque the valve a little more...stream slows to a steady drip.
Solution: Rip plastic hose out of copper fitting, place pail on basement to catch the drips overnight.
I did get the old dishwasher removed, but now I need to make a trip to the hardware door in the morning to get a 1/2" ball valve and a few other fittings to finish the job. In the meantime the pail is doing a fine job in the basement. I could stop the drips by shutting the hot water off to the entire house, but with a wife and two kids home I would rather let it drip.
Hopefully things go better in the morning.
Issue 1. Gate valve in dishwasher water supply is seized.
Solution: Gently turn handle with wrench and snap handle off.
Solution: Remove shards of handle, close valve with vice grips.
Issue 2. Upon removing the plastic hose from the dishwasher, I discover that the "closed" gate valve is still allowing water to leak by.
Solution: Quickly grab dish towels to stop flood, run into the basement and torque the valve a little more...stream slows to a steady drip.
Solution: Rip plastic hose out of copper fitting, place pail on basement to catch the drips overnight.
I did get the old dishwasher removed, but now I need to make a trip to the hardware door in the morning to get a 1/2" ball valve and a few other fittings to finish the job. In the meantime the pail is doing a fine job in the basement. I could stop the drips by shutting the hot water off to the entire house, but with a wife and two kids home I would rather let it drip.
Hopefully things go better in the morning.
- tsb
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Plumbing, it's for when you think things can't suck any worse.
- Rob R.
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Every plumbing project I have done in this house has been complicated. By now I should know that the only approach is to plan going all the way back to the last pipe or valve that I have personally replaced.
- 2001Sierra
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Plumbing is almost always an issue, especially with the quality of valves today. Years ago I used to visit my parents in Florida, I always said we only do plumbing on the first week of my two week vacation
- davidmcbeth3
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Looks like all the issues are solved ! [I'm re-doing a bathroom now...almost done! A 3 mo project].
I replaced my dishwasher's motor assembly a few years ago after a leak ... been running fine since.
My clothes washer motor I changed about 1 yr ago .... been running fine since.
Plumbing is a breeze now that I got the sharkbite tools. Why is it I always was trying to solder near a leaky value, causing soldering to be next to impossible. Sharkbite that thing ! They make values too .. more expensive but zip/zap/done.
I replaced my dishwasher's motor assembly a few years ago after a leak ... been running fine since.
My clothes washer motor I changed about 1 yr ago .... been running fine since.
Plumbing is a breeze now that I got the sharkbite tools. Why is it I always was trying to solder near a leaky value, causing soldering to be next to impossible. Sharkbite that thing ! They make values too .. more expensive but zip/zap/done.
- EarthWindandFire
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Rob, I thoroughly understand your plight. My house was built right after the war, they even skipped installing underlayment boards and nailed the oak directly to the floor joists. Good luck, may the plumbing God's be with you!
- Rob R.
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Plumbing is done. That sharkbite fitting was perfect. Easy install, now I have a 1/4 turn shutoff and a new 60" braided stainless line going to the dishwasher. I am lucky to have a True Value hardware store 3 minutes away with a very competent manager.
- windyhill4.2
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Shark bite fittings sure do make things easy,they do come with a high price tag tho. Rob , I didn't think you had any store or much civilization near you . I thought you were way out there in no mans land. New dishwasher with water line connected with modern shark bite fitting, try that line for selling your house .
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AH yes that brings back memories,
I slapped that issue around using a washing machine hose.
I slapped that issue around using a washing machine hose.
- Rob R.
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The install went very smoothly, and I am pleased with the results. The new unit is VERY quiet, and has some nice features. I think the shiny stainless makes the old cabinets look even older, but other than that all is well.
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- Rob R.
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I have the best of both worlds. Not much other than apple trees for the first mile, but a few miles away we have a few local businesses that cover a lot of bases.windyhill4.2 wrote:Shark bite fittings sure do make things easy,they do come with a high price tag tho. Rob , I didn't think you had any store or much civilization near you . I thought you were way out there in no mans land. New dishwasher with water line connected with modern shark bite fitting, try that line for selling your house .
- windyhill4.2
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Sounds like the ideal place to live..... which makes it that much sadder to have to move from there for a job.Rob R. wrote:I have the best of both worlds. Not much other than apple trees for the first mile, but a few miles away we have a few local businesses that cover a lot of bases.windyhill4.2 wrote:Shark bite fittings sure do make things easy,they do come with a high price tag tho. Rob , I didn't think you had any store or much civilization near you . I thought you were way out there in no mans land. New dishwasher with water line connected with modern shark bite fitting, try that line for selling your house .