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Post by lsayre » Sat. Feb. 20, 2021 4:54 am

I just checked, and right now according to co2levels.org the earths CO2 level is 417.54 ppm (parts per million).

417.54/1,000,000 x 100 = 0.041754% of the air we are breathing.

NASA says that the atmospheric CO2 level on Mars is 95.32%, and the temperature there is on the order of -85 degrees. You would think that with all of that CO2 Mars would be roasting rather than deep freezing. If 95% CO2 is doing nothing to help Mars warm up, how is 0.04% supposed to cause the earth to roast?

Granted, Mars doesn't have much atmosphere, and the atmospheric pressure at its surface is only about 1% of our 14.69 PSI here on earth, but c'mon man... After compensating, 95.32% x 1% = 0.9532% adjusted (vs. our 0.0418%)

And lastly one must factor in that on a sunny day the Earth's surface receives 1,000 Watts of sunlight energy per square meter, while on Mars this figure is 590 Watts per square meter. So 0.9532 x 590/1000 = 0.5624% adjusted (vs. 0.04%)

0.5624/0.041753 = 13.47X

 
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Post by warminmn » Sat. Feb. 20, 2021 9:19 am

lsayre wrote:
Sat. Feb. 20, 2021 4:54 am
I just checked, and right now according to co2levels.org the earths CO2 level is 417.54 ppm (parts per million).

417.54/1,000,000 x 100 = 0.041754% of the air we are breathing.

NASA says that the atmospheric CO2 level on Mars is 95.32%, and the temperature there is on the order of -85 degrees. You would think that with all of that CO2 Mars would be roasting rather than deep freezing. If 95% CO2 is doing nothing to help Mars warm up, how is 0.04% supposed to cause the earth to roast?

Granted, Mars doesn't have much atmosphere, and the atmospheric pressure at its surface is only about 1% of our 14.69 PSI here on earth, but c'mon man... After compensating, 95.32% x 1% = 0.9532% adjusted (vs. our 0.0418%)

And lastly one must factor in that on a sunny day the Earth's surface receives 1,000 Watts of sunlight energy per square meter, while on Mars this figure is 590 Watts per square meter. So 0.9532 x 590/1000 = 0.5624% adjusted (vs. 0.04%)

0.5624/0.041753 = 13.47X
Interesting info and link. Im unsure I trust the figures taken before 1958. So we are 25% higher now than in 1958 and 30-34% higher than hundreds of years ago if their older figures are correct. I'll have to spend some time looking at other stuff on that site. Thanks!

 
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Post by lsayre » Sat. Feb. 20, 2021 9:30 am

I think the methane is likely the real culprit, and CO2 is merely a trailing indicator. The charts seem to bear this out, as methane started increasing before CO2 did.


 
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Post by McGiever » Sat. Feb. 20, 2021 12:10 pm

High methane...Damn Cows!!!

 
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Post by warminmn » Sat. Feb. 20, 2021 1:02 pm

Synthetic meat is how they will combat methane I bet. At least that will be the excuse for pushing its use. Maybe they are already.

 
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Post by lsayre » Sat. Feb. 20, 2021 1:06 pm

warminmn wrote:
Sat. Feb. 20, 2021 1:02 pm
Synthetic meat is how they will combat methane I bet. At least that will be the excuse for pushing its use. Maybe they are already.
I can't wait! :mrgreen:

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