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Re: Wave of the future, huh?
Posted: Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 4:13 am
by coalnewbie
If EVs ever made it big in NYS then our crooked utility companies would make sure the power is rated commercial. Commercial electricity rates in New York average 15.06¢/kWh, which ranks the state 2nd in the nation. The average commercial electricity rate of 15.06¢/kWh in NY is 49.26% greater than the national average commercial rate of 10.09¢/kWh. Why do you think Chargepoint and other charging companies are being gobbled up by the oil companies. If they can't screw you one way then they will try another.
Suddenly the free ride on EVs will not look so good. Yes Kev, lets try $5 tax on gas. Let us try to copy all of Frances screw ups. Perhaps they can sell us some yellow vests. I know, let us vacation in Paris to talk about this one I can get us great hotel rates.
Re: Wave of the future, huh?
Posted: Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 11:05 am
by Sunny Boy
coalnewbie wrote: ↑Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 4:13 am
If EVs ever made it big in NYS then our crooked utility companies would make sure the power is rated commercial. Commercial electricity rates in New York average 15.06¢/kWh, which ranks the state 2nd in the nation. The average commercial electricity rate of 15.06¢/kWh in NY is 49.26% greater than the national average commercial rate of 10.09¢/kWh. Why do you think Chargepoint and other charging companies are being gobbled up by the oil companies. If they can't screw you one way then they will try another.
Suddenly the free ride on EVs will not look so good. Yes Kev, lets try $5 tax on gas. Let us try to copy all of Frances screw ups. Perhaps they can sell us some yellow vests. I know, let us vacation in Paris to talk about this one I can get us great hotel rates.
15 cents commercial rate ? It'll be interesting to see how EV's catch on in those more expensive power places. It was 16 cents for residential when I left Long Island 26 years ago. According to this from two years ago it's 18 cents.
https://www.newsday.com/long-island/lipa-electric ... 1.11937361
And, it's been 12 cents residential around here for many years for those not on the lower rates of a co-op, or local municipal power, of which there are only about 42 in NYS.
Paul
Re: Wave of the future, huh?
Posted: Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 11:24 am
by CapeCoaler
Welcome to MA...
In the Northeast, LIPA’s 2015 cost per kilowatt hour of 18.1 cents was lower only than Con Edison’s (23.5 cents), Massachusetts-based NSTAR’s (19.8 cents) and Connecticut Light & Power’s (19.2 cents).
We are #2...
Re: Wave of the future, huh?
Posted: Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 11:46 am
by coalnewbie
Well OK CC, we will give you the #2 spot for now. However, NY does not have an ocean full of salt water rusting windmills to fall back on. With luck in 15 -20 years as they are replaced you may be able to boast #1. However, NY is never willing to be left behind in the stupid ideas dept so they will fill up LI sound with these things.... we will show you...
Re: Wave of the future, huh?
Posted: Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 11:54 am
by Rob R.
EV charging station sounds like a good idea for the empty 30 acre site in Rouses Point with a huge substation and $0.03/kwh electric. All the greenies from VT can push their cars over for a charge.
Re: Wave of the future, huh?
Posted: Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 12:55 pm
by Sunny Boy
The irony is,....... NYS is has long been one of the leaders in "renewable energy". Long before it was fashionable. NYS has one of the highest percentages of it's power supplied by hydroelectric of all 50 states.
Sad part for those downstate paying through the nose for electricity is that not much of it reaches way down there anymore. We used to sell them our summer surplus of our hydro allotment, but now we need it. I guess there's some EV's hiding out around here.
Paul
Re: Wave of the future, huh?
Posted: Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 1:11 pm
by Rob R.
Sunny Boy wrote: ↑Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 12:55 pm
The irony is,....... NYS is has long been one of the leaders in "renewable energy". Long before it was fashionable. NYS has one of the highest percentages of it's power supplied by hydroelectric of all 50 states.
https://www.nypa.gov/about/timeline
Re: Wave of the future, huh?
Posted: Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 1:46 pm
by Sunny Boy
Nice link, Rob, thanks.
But it seems they left out quite a few hydro dams. There's a lot more than just five. There's about 9 just on the upper Hudson River starting near Mechanicsville and heading up to Corinth. Melissa and I hunt and fish near a few of them.
And the best wild grapes we ever canned into jelly, we picked just down river from the power station in Stillwater.
Paul
Re: Wave of the future, huh?
Posted: Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 2:41 pm
by bambooboy
In Maryland we have many choices for electric suppliers.at the present time we are with Clearview energy out of Texas @ 7.1 per k.w.h. i research every 6 months& with 1 phone call can switch to cheapest rate.
https://www.clearviewenergy.com/
Re: Wave of the future, huh?
Posted: Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 3:37 pm
by coalnewbie
That is OK Sunny we forgive you. After all that juice has to go to the $750,000,000 Tesla factory to keep it warm so the plumbing does not freeze. The solar panels are doing bubkis this time of the year. We need to keep the janitorial staff employed. Another Cuomo winner. It is going to make a really great skating rink.
Re: Wave of the future, huh?
Posted: Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 6:16 pm
by Sunny Boy
coalnewbie wrote: ↑Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 3:37 pm
That is OK Sunny we forgive you. After all that juice has to go to the $750,000,000 Tesla factory to keep it warm so the plumbing does not freeze. The solar panels are doing bubkis this time of the year. We need to keep the janitorial staff employed. Another Cuomo winner. It is going to make a really great skating rink.
$750 mill ? Since Tesla no longer headlines the news, I thought their factory was "past tents".
Paul
Re: Wave of the future, huh?
Posted: Thu. Dec. 06, 2018 6:27 pm
by coalnewbie
Re: Wave of the future, huh?
Posted: Sat. Dec. 15, 2018 8:52 am
by bambooboy
Re: Wave of the future, huh?
Posted: Mon. Dec. 17, 2018 11:41 am
by BigBarney
The mileage tax is way too complicated to administer and is something our government
has always done .
The easiest way is to just have gas tax that is reflective of the need for funds to
keep our highway and bridges in good condition, with alt EV's to pay their fair
share.
BigBarney