Farm Energy and Potatoes combined
Why not utilize the land... Get Two for one ....
https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en/press-media/pres ... rcent.html
https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en/press-media/pres ... -2018.html
Why not take the cash and sell your potatoes???
Get 186% yield on the land...
BigBarney
https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en/press-media/pres ... rcent.html
https://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en/press-media/pres ... -2018.html
Why not take the cash and sell your potatoes???
Get 186% yield on the land...
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As Germany collapses under this stupidity, potatoes are a perfect SHTF commodity.
https://tomluongo.me/2019/04/06/germany-dead-econ ... y-walking/
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Yep---I'm gonna immediately send a box of spuds over to Germany--lets see--186% yield from a box???? hmmmmmm
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Not much tobacco growing there now. I doubt if it is 10% of what was there in the '50s and '60s.
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I thought of ginseng too. That grows better on north and east slopes but cultivated there are things you can do on the other slopes, mostly just thicker shade. Thats usually a one crop and out thing though because of diseases. The continued spraying required might damage the panels or block them some. Goldenseal might be more suited.
i can see potatoes and winter wheat doing ok too, but it mostly seems like a waste of time. Animal pasture would make more sense and that is needed too. As long as its not goats as they'd eat the panels, or birds cuz they'd poop on them.
This experiment I guess worked but I bet it was funded by the govt so cost a fortune. Someone small scale, like on a small piece of land it might work to grow some of their own food, but for a huge acreage it just doesnt really make sense. There isnt much money in potatoes compared to pastures in "most" situations. But whatever.
i can see potatoes and winter wheat doing ok too, but it mostly seems like a waste of time. Animal pasture would make more sense and that is needed too. As long as its not goats as they'd eat the panels, or birds cuz they'd poop on them.
This experiment I guess worked but I bet it was funded by the govt so cost a fortune. Someone small scale, like on a small piece of land it might work to grow some of their own food, but for a huge acreage it just doesnt really make sense. There isnt much money in potatoes compared to pastures in "most" situations. But whatever.
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So how much extra did the structure cost...
So they could farm underneath...
How much extra spacing did the panels get...
thus reducing potential output...
So they could farm underneath...
How much extra spacing did the panels get...
thus reducing potential output...
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And who do they get to clear the snow off those panels at a time of year when energy demand is at it's greatest ?
The crazy Germans have already allowed themselves to be held hostage by Russian gas pipelines in the name of "clean energy". Now Frosty The Snowman also gets to dictate their energy use ?
And they better take a lesson from history about relying on potatoes.
Paul
The crazy Germans have already allowed themselves to be held hostage by Russian gas pipelines in the name of "clean energy". Now Frosty The Snowman also gets to dictate their energy use ?
And they better take a lesson from history about relying on potatoes.
Paul
Any farmer in especially southern US would be a fool not
to have a utility put solar panels over his farmland and
generate more money.
The only drawback would your location to a high capacity
power line and that's a real restraint on many areas , who's
going to spend the billions to build the line ?
That's the reason that at Nanticoke ON they already had the
line all they had to do was install the solar and they were on
line to sell power. They have a lot of room to expand in the future.
They have a 4,000 kw line and only using 10+%...
https://e360.yale.edu/digest/canadian-nanticoke-c ... solar-farm
BigBarney
to have a utility put solar panels over his farmland and
generate more money.
The only drawback would your location to a high capacity
power line and that's a real restraint on many areas , who's
going to spend the billions to build the line ?
That's the reason that at Nanticoke ON they already had the
line all they had to do was install the solar and they were on
line to sell power. They have a lot of room to expand in the future.
They have a 4,000 kw line and only using 10+%...
https://e360.yale.edu/digest/canadian-nanticoke-c ... solar-farm
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BB, I think this may be tad misleading or to use a Rob phrase that he often uses ... this is total BS.
Your proximity to a high power line is irrelevant. So you think that a farmers few solar panels over the spud field can be connected to one of these major arteries... hhhaaaaa, yeah right. Solar panels are usually leased and you sign a long term agreement that includes a lien against your property. Then there is a grid connection charge again with a long term agreement. So if you desire to really be off the grid one day you must do it all yourself or your stuck.
Your proximity to a high power line is irrelevant. So you think that a farmers few solar panels over the spud field can be connected to one of these major arteries... hhhaaaaa, yeah right. Solar panels are usually leased and you sign a long term agreement that includes a lien against your property. Then there is a grid connection charge again with a long term agreement. So if you desire to really be off the grid one day you must do it all yourself or your stuck.
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Its always someone who has never farmed that thinks they know everything about it. If it was so profitable every farmer would already be doing it.
There is some huge company looking to build a solar field of the 500 acre size in my area but we will see how that turns out. rent on 500 acres here would be close to $100,000 per year, and buying 500 acres here would be over 2.5 million, plus annual property tax. Anybody smell govt subsidy in that?
There is some huge company looking to build a solar field of the 500 acre size in my area but we will see how that turns out. rent on 500 acres here would be close to $100,000 per year, and buying 500 acres here would be over 2.5 million, plus annual property tax. Anybody smell govt subsidy in that?
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So Solar makes electricity, potatoes can be used as batteries (remember the potato clocks?)....Instant POWER STATION! LOL