GMO Corn/Cows Health

 
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Post by wilder11354 » Wed. Apr. 26, 2017 9:30 pm

Anyone out here, ever have issues, caused by GMO corn for SILO SILAGE? Or know of GMO silage corn versus hybrid non gmo corn...Symptoms, issues, etc. ?

Reason I ask GMO corns are modified to grow its own herbicidal properties in stalk for things like cutworm, etc. Residuals from that cause issues in digestive tracts of cows, liver, and other things.

Need honest input from present past dairy farmers. THX in advance.


 
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Post by davidmcbeth3 » Wed. Apr. 26, 2017 11:09 pm

Most GMOs are round-up resistant .. meaning you can dump a ton of it onto the crops w/o hurting the crop but allowing for easier control of weeds.

So I would think that with the GMO products purchased they will be more dosed with round-up than non-GMO plants.

And round-up? Seems as if the data is leaning that it is a carcinogen.

Wash 'em ! Wash 'em well.

 
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Post by wilder11354 » Thu. Apr. 27, 2017 11:18 pm

ITS NOT WHAT YOU DON'T USE TO GROW THEM, ITS how THE PLANT HAS BEEN modified..TO GROW ITS OWN PESTICIDE RESISTANT GENES... WHICH IT KEEPS IN STALKS.Which builds up in cows feeding in winter, silage mainly and the effects of such on kidneys, livers, natural emzynes which cows normally produce,to digest feed, residual effects on normal body organ functions. and how GMO resistant things screws up cows ability to digest, function normally.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Fri. Apr. 28, 2017 6:07 am

Bill, if you're seriously gonna get into this--check out organic--milk prices SUK not that organic is doin much better, but a little up this way--prices are about the same as they were but they've really cut back on allotted production amount.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Fri. Apr. 28, 2017 6:21 am

We never had any problems with it at all. Ran thousands of tons through the animals with no problems.

 
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Post by coaledsweat » Fri. Apr. 28, 2017 6:24 am

I went by a farm the other day and could have sworn the cows were gmoooing.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Fri. Apr. 05, 2019 10:00 am

Depends whether your a small family farm or a conglomerate-----------


 
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Post by BigBarney » Fri. Apr. 05, 2019 11:53 am

This will end badly for GMO 's if roundup is banned in food

there will be no market for plants with roundup resistance.

The court trials so far have favored the plaintiffs and thousands

more are in the system still to be litigated .

The FDA needs to set lower limits , 0 preferly , in all food for

human consumption . These contaminents are already found

in too many foods.

Quaker Oats permits farmers to use round up before harvest

on its oat products and they have high residual levels of the

chemical in their products , so I only buy organic oats , and they

even have some residual due to cross contamination .

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1- ... 26&bih=729

https://www.ewg.org/release/roundup-breakfast-par ... ls-sampled

We need to address this soon...

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Post by tcalo » Fri. Apr. 05, 2019 12:52 pm

The answer for my family is organics!!!

 
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Post by BigBarney » Fri. Apr. 05, 2019 12:59 pm

Especially where they tell you that their products are

contaminated with this herbicide.

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Post by LouNY » Sat. Apr. 06, 2019 12:11 pm

We have seen no difference in the cows with GMO corn versus non GMO.
The only GMO corn we used was the round up resistant ones.
It was used as a tool for production as it allows for weed control even with unpredictable spring weather.
From all that I have seen and read roundup is still one of the less toxic chemicals that can be used for growing food and feed.

Something to keep in mind with most chemicals for weed and insect control anyone applying these products for ag use has to be licensed and keep records of the acreage sprayed and the ounces per acre.

Homeowners that go to garden supply stores and use pounds per little garden or lawn almost all times are using a huge amount per acre compared to what farmers are allowed to use.

If all the chemicals that are used for food and feed production are removed from the US market our food production will plumet and the costs will increase, the imports from countrys with none or mimimal regulations would jump and the consumer will have no idea whats in their food.

Organics sound good but are impractical in this day and age, small scale seasonal supplies are not what the consumer wants.
When your vegetable selection is only whats in season it will be a skimpy selection and the quality and uniformity will also be gone.

Organic dairies seemed like the way to go and it was for awhile for smaller producers as there where pasture requirements and grazing or at least outside areas to roam. The organic milk regulations have been changed so the large agri business could get into it.

Numerous small dairies especially organic as well as some conventional have tried to go independent with their own bottling plants and distribution but the almost million dollar plus investment required to jump thru all the Federal and State hoops and regulations have stiffled most of them.

 
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Post by warminmn » Sat. Apr. 06, 2019 12:42 pm

Nice post Lou. I agree, the alternatives to roundup are worse than roundup. And there is no way its going to go back to the days where weeds are pulled by hand because the labor cost would be enormous. Yes, small 80 acre farms or less I suppose the owner could do it but its not going to happen very often, and most small farms are rented out anymore it seems like.

Eating organic produce can be accomplished by canning or freezing your own, otherwise it is seasonal.

 
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Post by coalnewbie » Sat. Apr. 06, 2019 5:34 pm

Could be academic as there has already been one $85 million jury award and billions in lawsuits coming. Bayer may just go bankrupt. The patents have expired so anybody can enter the market but who would risk it. Without it we have a food crisis so what happens now? A chemical co in NK or Russia could start up, try suing them, but then the lawsuits go to the farmer or cereal company. Any food manufacturer who sells any food contaminated with it at ANY level. Interesting.

 
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Post by CoalJockey » Sat. Apr. 06, 2019 5:53 pm

I’m not real certain about the chemical side of things but when it comes to genetically modified hybrids I don’t see what everyone is all up in arms over. When you want the best traits of a certain species of plant, what is the difference if these traits are selected naturally by selective pollination or if it is done under a microscope?

I just don’t get it.

 
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Post by coaledsweat » Sat. Apr. 06, 2019 5:57 pm

At $7+ billion a year I don't see Bayer going bankrupt.


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