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Post by BigBarney » Tue. Aug. 14, 2018 10:01 pm

When I said "ripen" what i meant was correctly changed to drying out

faster for an easier harvest .

I can't verify it but articles have claimed in South America that herbicides

are used to defoliate the vines after harvest to get the dormancy period

to allow two crops to be produced in a year instead of one. Maybe

someone will have more info on this.

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Post by warminmn » Tue. Aug. 14, 2018 10:35 pm

Yep, BB, I knew what you meant. The South American thing sounds logical. It might work in that local if the growing season is long.

 
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Post by rberq » Wed. Aug. 15, 2018 9:52 am

warminmn wrote:
Tue. Aug. 14, 2018 9:04 pm
2 4 D ... If they start using that in place of round up people will have a lot more to complain about disease wise, in my opinion.
Per my brother -- no family history of diabetes -- with soldiers like him who were exposed to Agent Orange in Vietnam and develop diabetes later, the VA automatically assumes the exposure caused the diabetes.

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Post by warminmn » Wed. Aug. 15, 2018 10:25 pm

I researched that link some. The statistics shown were in PPB (parts per billion). Usually it is PPM (parts per million) so the link is detecting really really small amounts. This link is about 1.5 yrs old but shows parts per million https://www.bestfoodfacts.org/glyphosate-in-food/ the amounts could be different now.

Im not trying to make it look safe but its not as bad as the link seems to try to show.

One thing that interested me most was Cheerios. Right on the box cover they say they are "not made with GMO ingredients". Yet they are detected. It kind of shows that spray drift is getting to the other crops, or they use grains with some allowed amount, I dont know, but isnt a real accurate statement to have on its cover.

Still, they are at about 1/25th the allowed amount... IF the allowed amount is actually a safe amount is another question.

It was nice to see some of the breakfast products that claimed to be organic had zero or close to zero amounts in them. It does show that organic is likely better if you want to buy it and not just a sales pitch.

 
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Post by BigBarney » Thu. Aug. 16, 2018 12:31 pm

Now the news is out.... Quaker Oats allow their oats to be sprayed with round up

before harvest... I bet in all the GMO crops of corn, and soybean you will find a

contamination with roundup especially where the crop rotation is those two..

http://agnetwest.com/brazilian-judge-suspends-glyphosate/

"Because the new crops are resistant to Roundup, the herbicide can be used in the fields to eliminate unwanted foliage. Current Roundup Ready crops include soy, corn, canola, alfalfa, cotton, and sorghum, with wheat under development. Roundup Ready crop seeds have notoriously been referred to as "terminator seeds."

What food products contain glyphosate?
Specifically avoid the following items as they contain overly high residue amounts:

Soy (this means soy products and soy or vegetable oil)
Corn and corn oil.
Canola seeds used in canola oil.
Beets and beet sugar.
Almonds.
Dried peas.
Carrots.
Quinoa.

http://fortune.com/2018/08/15/roundup-in-cheerios ... ed-killer/

They admit using it to dry the crops before harvesting to save time .

The only reason some of the products fall below the limit is because so little

oats are in the product , like granola bars , probably only 30% oats and all the

other ingredients compose the majority of the bars.

Best to stay organic , and now the organic companies should sue for the

contamination of their fields by nearby farmers who can control the over spray.

There will be a lot more on this in days ahead.


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Post by warminmn » Fri. Aug. 17, 2018 8:58 am

Great link! I do think the PPB (parts per billion) number sounds so much worse than PPM does. Most people dont even notice the B instead of the M.

 
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Post by Tanu » Wed. Nov. 06, 2019 3:40 pm

So I don't post much... If you haven't see me on here names Kaity... But I have a bit of food for thought for you. My son has food allergies. It's been miserable but that's another story. the funny thing is he only shows reaction to the following crops; corn soy wheat dairy canola and banana peels. The bananas themselves seem ok.

These are all crops that rely on heavy pesticide herbicide use. Unfortunately prior to his birth, not well pregnant, I was regularly in contact with a huge variety of pesticides and herbicides (think estate gardener) and other chemicals and heavy metals ( art school).

Never in my wildest dreams would I have made the connection. but a doctor actually asked me to fill out a checklist of chemicals I had been in contact with. I checked yes to most of four pages.

Never did anyone warn me that art school or professional gardening could cause impact to my future children's health.

To this day I believe chemicals have a place in land management. How else do you devastate a couple acres of knotweed? But I wish I had known more than I was ever taught about safe use years ago.

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