This solar energy was captured in Europe and sent to China ... To be extracted...
Maybe ~18 years later... Thermal storage in a bottle... The future...
Think how this could store the summer sun for the frigid winter...
All batteries are not electric but also thermal storage ...
BigBarney
Re: Storing solar energy in a liquid and solids
Posted: Tue. Aug. 02, 2022 11:04 am
by tsb
"Problems still exist and this will take time." Amount of time ? When hell freezes over and the laws of physics change.
Has that guy ever been near a steel plant ? Does he even know the melting point of iron. How about a BTU.
We are not a serious society. Solar has its place but basic industry is not going to be the strong point.
Re: Storing solar energy in a liquid and solids
Posted: Tue. Aug. 02, 2022 11:09 am
by coalnewbie
Here is an idea BB. Bury a forest full of trees and leave for 300MM years or so. Dig up whatever is left, put into a stove and light it. Now that is revolutionary
Re: Storing solar energy in a liquid and solids
Posted: Tue. Aug. 02, 2022 11:22 am
by tsb
The last time my mother ship visited earth that's what we did.
Your welcome.
Re: Storing solar energy in a liquid and solids
Posted: Tue. Aug. 02, 2022 11:34 am
by BigBarney
If it takes 300M years to renew why wait when you have millions times of that energy
Yeah, some big industry can afford the high cost of solar.
But for home use how many people can afford about $20,000 for all the panels, electrical equipment, a way to store power for night-time use, plus the installation costs ?
And in a part of the country that gets a lot of cloudy days when that "clean" power is needed most, it's a great way to spend a lot of money to try and save a little.
Barney, congratulations, you have actually posted something that has piqued my interest. That is actually quite interesting but there is all kinds of technologies that can be demonstrated to work. We can do fusion for example, you can even do it in your basement but bringing it to scale for production is where the issue lies.
This solar energy was captured in Europe and sent to China ... To be extracted...
Maybe ~18 years later... Thermal storage in a bottle... The future...
Think how this could store the summer sun for the frigid winter...
All batteries are not electric but also thermal storage ...
BigBarney
Pretty good watch. I have often wondered why they haven't taken more advantage of the CSB or whatever it's called, Archemides (BC era!) used giant mirrors to deflect sunlight to catch attacking warships on fire. Seriously. If they could do that, that long ago, we should be using this technology. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to realize the power of concentrated sun in one point, I wonder if the surface area required for the yield is maybe the deterrent currently. The liquid thing is very interesting too, taking advantage of molecular tendencies and behaviours is really key.
Re: Storing solar energy in a liquid and solids
Posted: Tue. Aug. 02, 2022 8:57 pm
by Lightning
It's crazy to think that mankind's first successful flights were in 1903. Which wasn't very long ago in the grand scheme of things. Since then 12 people have walked on the moon and we've sent probes to other planets exploring the solar system. My point being, eventually we'll find a way to make solar a viable and inexpensive energy source. Same with fusion. Give it a few generations...
It's crazy to think that mankind's first successful flights were in 1903. Which wasn't very long ago in the grand scheme of things. Since then 12 people have walked on the moon and we've sent probes to other planets exploring the solar system. My point being, eventually we'll find a way to make solar a viable and inexpensive energy source. Same with fusion. Give it a few generations...
There has been a lot of developments in this field recently with some claiming viable production scale reactors before the decade is out. I guess we'll see... Such a machine will revolutionize things as we know them. 1000 years from now when man looks back on history there will be the time before fusion and the time after fusion.
I mentioned you could build one in your basement, I worked on this site and I'm sure the irony of "thecoalman" fixing their forum wasn't lost on them. I learned quite a bit about fusion while I was working on it. The machines they are building will produce a small amount of energy relative to the input but the expense to build it is extraordinarily high for the amount of energy it will produce. The technology is available, you only need to make it cost effective.
Pretty good watch. I have often wondered why they haven't taken more advantage of the CSB or whatever it's called, Archemides (BC era!) used giant mirrors to deflect sunlight to catch attacking warships on fire. Seriously. If they could do that, that long ago, we should be using this technology. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to realize the power of concentrated sun in one point, I wonder if the surface area required for the yield is maybe the deterrent currently. The liquid thing is very interesting too, taking advantage of molecular tendencies and behaviours is really key.
The catching ships on fire with mirrors is more than likely a myth.
