Solar and wind

Just read where one solar panel broke the 400 watt per residential panel output, getting better all the time.

We will look back on 400 watts per panel one day and laugh. Think about the first computer you had. Probably 120 megabytes. Now you can get terabytes on a thumb drive. And there will be advanced battery technology aimed at the residential market. The utilities will fight it but lose.

samhill wrote: ↑

Sat. Mar. 09, 2019 7:50 am

Just read where one solar panel broke the 400 watt per residential panel output, getting better all the time.

That's about 24.5% efficiency. Sounds like a top of the line "SunPower" panel. Mucho expensive.

I believe efficiency is now closing in on about 26%. Most reasonably affordable solar panels are still roughly between 15% and 18% efficient though.

But here's the rub: A 250 Watt solar panel that is 15% efficient gives you the same exact energy and life expectancy as a 250 Watt solar panel that is 26% efficient. The essential difference is that one costs ~$150 and the other costs ~$550 (my guess). The only other difference is their size. And that you or I would buy the $150 panels, but a government subsidized (I.E., tax funded) entity would go for the $550 panels.

I agree Isayre, at my age I wouldn't jump into the market but for a young person with a good income it would be temping. Our power Co-Op is getting a new head man so who knows they might offer a deal. Can't beat my water heater, it's electric naturally but ultra high efficiency at zero cost to me & a lifetime full replacement at zero cost. My old one had an exhaust motor which was going bad anyhow so instead of that I had them replace mine & then sold it I know that the new heater will add value, with solar panels they may or may not depending on the buyer.

We need bigger batteries

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/04/ ... orida.html

Idiots

coalnewbie wrote: ↑

Tue. Apr. 09, 2019 4:55 am

We need bigger batteries

Great article. Solar simply can't cut it, even with a roughly 70% government subsidy paid for by our taxes. And the output of the plant pales by comparison to a similarly priced NG or coal plant, and the end user cost of the electricity is ~6X more.

They proudly just shut coal power stations. Turkey Point and Crystal River (NPPs) are one Cat 5 storm from disaster. TP in particular is in trouble right now and S Florida has an exploding population. You can't fix stupid.

coalnewbie wrote: ↑

Tue. Apr. 09, 2019 6:01 am

They proudly just shut coal power stations. Turkey Point and Crystal River (NPPs) are one Cat 5 storm from disaster. TP in particular is in trouble right now and S Florida has an exploding population. You can't fix stupid.

But that doesn't stop them from trying,.....

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/04/ ... orida.html

Paul

TP is ruining Biscayne Bay and the $200mm spent in pumping heated water into injection wells is fatal and will not work. Wait until those fragile fresh water domes are punctured and then they will have no drinking water. Crystal River is doomed as well but this is a northern coal board so I will stop now.

How much bigger of a battery do you need ???? 409 MW storage...

https://techthelead.com/florida-power-light-plans ... ge-system/

"FPL's battery promises to be four times as large as Tesla's -- or in the company's words, "the equivalent of approximately 100 million iPhone batteries" -- and store enough energy to power 32,000 homes for 24 hours. (That's about one-sixth of the housing units in Manatee County.) It will be charged by an existing solar power plant."

"The utility also said it would upgrade existing solar power plants and install smaller batteries across the state to make up for the 1,600 MW of generating power that the gas-fired plants currently produce. According to FPL, the battery is scheduled to be operational in late 2021."

Look at what Holyoke Ma has done in a far north city...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/solar-power-in-flori ... e-battery/

BigBarney

And all they need is just a few cloudy days in a row and that battery is useless,...at what cost ? How about putting one of those in the Pacific Northwest where much of it they average 100 days of sunshine a year ?

We just went through one of the wettest, cloudiest years here in CNY in the 27 years I've lived here. Glad I didn't rely on solar for my electric needs. Can't run shop lights and equipment off candles.

And guess why January and February are called "the gray months" here in central and eastern upstate NY, on east into Vermont and Western Mass and NH ?

Oh, and if the glo-bull warmists get their wish there'll be even more cloudy weather. Check out what happens to all that surface water as the atmosphere warms up. Here's a hint, Sailors learn early on to use the phenomena to find land far off over the horizon.

Paul

Where can you live with the lowest of the lows...

https://www.bestplaces.net/climate/city/pennsylvania/erie

Erie, Pennsylvania gets 45 inches of rain, on average, per year. The US average is 39 inches of rain per year.

Erie averages 101 inches of snow per year. The US average is 26 inches of snow per year.

On average, there are 157 sunny days per year in Erie. The US average is 205 sunny days.

BigBarney

The perfect place to buy a Bolt. I think I would buy a Unimog..... hmmm, I get my best ideas here.

Yep especially with off peak electric....

Get over 100 eMPG and mileage cost of 2.5 cents per

mile ,equivalent to gas at $0.88 gallon gasoline.

BigBarney

So, still think that renewable energy is cheaper, huh ?

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/06/ ... nsive.html

Paul