Solar and wind
- lsayre
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Good article. It fails however to mention that the production and distribution and installation of solar related componentry is highly energy intensive (in addition to being highly cost intensive, which the article does mention). And that solar equipment has a relatively short lifespan, and is relatively high in maintenance. With the measure of relativity here being in relation to current/conventional energy sources. It also ignores environmental damage related to production (including CO2), as if solar energy is 100% pure and clean.
And if looking only at the cost, with due consideration to its 70% subsidy, this subsidy means (unless money literally grows on trees) that those few who can afford it are placing a huge economic burden upon the shoulders of all of those who can not afford it (wherein 70% is being paid for by those not using it or benefiting from it, whereby it is akin to welfare for the rich). And let us not forget that those who can afford to benefit from solar energy are also using the entire nationwide infrastructure of the grid for free. They should in all fairness equitably pay their "fair share" for its maintenance and upkeep and modernization.
And if looking only at the cost, with due consideration to its 70% subsidy, this subsidy means (unless money literally grows on trees) that those few who can afford it are placing a huge economic burden upon the shoulders of all of those who can not afford it (wherein 70% is being paid for by those not using it or benefiting from it, whereby it is akin to welfare for the rich). And let us not forget that those who can afford to benefit from solar energy are also using the entire nationwide infrastructure of the grid for free. They should in all fairness equitably pay their "fair share" for its maintenance and upkeep and modernization.
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Much like EV's are taxpayer subsidized and don't pay their fair share of gas taxes for maintenance of roads.
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and as soon as the whole planet is covered with solar panels courtesy of the mostly left wing renewable crowd....
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-New ... light.html
The environmental damage making those panels will have been expended and land ruined... and so on to the next idiot idea. BTW, the Japs are betting on hydrogen cars and I think they are right. Toyota has the idea. Fusion is a bridge too far at the moment.
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The environmental damage making those panels will have been expended and land ruined... and so on to the next idiot idea. BTW, the Japs are betting on hydrogen cars and I think they are right. Toyota has the idea. Fusion is a bridge too far at the moment.
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Looks like Norway may be done with the hydrogen thingy.
https://www.fleeteurope.com/en/new-energies/europ ... ota&curl=1
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If you take the hydrogen out of atmospheric water (H2O) you are left with O (oxygen). Rising oxygen in the atmosphere could potentially be far worse than rising CO2. Accelerated aging. Massively intense, far more frequent, and more devastatingly widespread forest fires. Bugs of massive size* (due to the fact that they breath through their skin, and their size is delimited by how much O2 they can manage to ozmose through their skins surface area). Etc...
* Back in distant prehistoric times, when the geologic record records bizarre insects such as mosquitoes that were up to about a foot long and dragon flies that were up to about a yard long, the earths atmosphere (as recorded in such things as air bubbles preserved in amber) hit 35% oxygen. Today it is 20.8%.
* Back in distant prehistoric times, when the geologic record records bizarre insects such as mosquitoes that were up to about a foot long and dragon flies that were up to about a yard long, the earths atmosphere (as recorded in such things as air bubbles preserved in amber) hit 35% oxygen. Today it is 20.8%.
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..... hahahahahahaa, you crack me up.
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playboymagazine/hugheslastarticle/ etc.
madmagazine/anymonth/herewwego etc.
montypython/heunderstood/lifeofbrian etc.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/06/ ... _news.html
madmagazine/anymonth/herewwego etc.
montypython/heunderstood/lifeofbrian etc.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/06/ ... _news.html
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OH no CS, it means you heard it here first.
OH no CS, it means you heard it here first.
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Earth was on fire when oxygen was at 30-35%.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2015/11/1 ... 6ee07c5f02
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Yeah but you are assuming the left over oxygen would just be vented to the atmosphere.. couldn't it be used as a commodity for something else?
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I'm guessing a sign of the times but it sounds more like GE made a poor design & jumped into using before much testing. Any way at least some of the plant will be used.
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Another dud. Solar panels are producing much less than advertised in our area .. not surprising. At least there is wind ...
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/06/ ... usade.html
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