20% plus increase

 
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Post by lincolnmania » Mon. Jun. 06, 2022 7:14 pm

my place is old too and the insulation is not good, plus mom likes it at 72 degrees.
might have to drain the garage loop and freeze this winter. will have to do more zoning so i can make moms room warm and the rest of the house in the mid 60's
this sucks. coal was 110 bucks a ton when i joined this forum.

 
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Post by GoodProphets » Mon. Jun. 06, 2022 8:16 pm

k-2 wrote:
Mon. Jun. 06, 2022 2:44 pm
WOw thats a lot of coal. I use 4 ton for 3000 sq ft to 77deg. How big is your place.
Roughly 4000sf
I used to burn more, but setted to about 66/67 first floor, which makes second floor about 70f
If it is a windy winter, that tonnage increases big time, as I only replaced a few windows.
I finally got over the nostalgia of the original windows and will replace them all soon.
But the southern walls in family and master are a full wall of windows.
Not much insulation throughout house I would think.

EFM 520 and stand up cast iron rads.
I fill a 55 gal drum from the bin since the basement was not set up to auger direct to bin.
But allows me to empty ash etc.

First winter here I was horrorfied with the heating oil at 3.89 gallon! 175g tank lasted 3 weeks!
I bought 6 cord of wood and fired up all three fireplaces, oh boy that was fun!
Just suffered that first winter then pulled the old time boiler and got the EFM

Thanks Rob, wow you pulled that link up! had to revisit!

oh btw a friend just bought a home and fillled the oil tank last week at $5.40 gallon!!!! :roll:
Trying to show him about coal. His place is perfect for coal stoker boiler!

 
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Post by Rob R. » Mon. Jun. 06, 2022 8:48 pm

k-2 wrote:
Mon. Jun. 06, 2022 7:09 pm
My place is at least 100 yrs old and not very well insulated. I use harmonys rice.
I remember. I just posted think link because of you scroll down you will see his description of his house.


 
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Post by k-2 » Mon. Jun. 06, 2022 11:53 pm

GoodProphets wrote:
Mon. Jun. 06, 2022 8:16 pm
Roughly 4000sf
I used to burn more, but setted to about 66/67 first floor, which makes second floor about 70f
If it is a windy winter, that tonnage increases big time, as I only replaced a few windows.
I finally got over the nostalgia of the original windows and will replace them all soon.
But the southern walls in family and master are a full wall of windows.
Not much insulation throughout house I would think.

oh btw a friend just bought a home and fillled the oil tank last week at $5.40 gallon!!!! :roll:
Trying to show him about coal. His place is perfect for coal stoker boiler!
Yea those windows are killer. They say the best window is worse than the worst wall. Either way coal is king right now over heating oil and even Nat gas going up like crazy. Plus my electric generation rate is up over 100% from a yrs ago,from 5.9KWH to 12.3KWH in the span of 1 yr.

 
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Post by k-2 » Mon. Jun. 06, 2022 11:54 pm

lincolnmania wrote:
Mon. Jun. 06, 2022 7:14 pm
coal was 110 bucks a ton when i joined this forum.
Was $80 ton when i got my new stoker in 2002.

 
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Post by hank2 » Tue. Jun. 07, 2022 12:22 am

$45. a ton for delivered rice in 1978. As cheap as $25. a ton for a TT load. That $45. would be an estimated $200 today. That $45. quickly became $80-something a ton with the second Arab oil embargo in 1979, then the extreme inflation of the early 80's. A very long Anthracite miner's union strike a couple years later pushed it up a lot more. No coal to be had for months.

k-2, that sounds like a great price in 2002. Were you picking it up? In 2001 I switched from a coal boiler to an oil boiler at my last home. Rice delivered was about $120 then if my memory is working. #2 H Oil was about $.88 a gal in 2001. Crude oil hit $18. a barrel at one point in 1998.

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