Coal Trucking Costs 2018
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Something else that no one is talking about much right now unless you are directly involved with trucking is the diesel price right now. I don’t really recall what the price was last year at this time but it was indeed quite a bit lower. I get a better rate on fuel that is delivered to our own storage tank at the yard than you can buy at the pump, and I did not look at last weeks delivery but I’m sure it’s over $3.50 or so.
I don’t think we are going to see a return to the high water mark of around $5 anytime soon like we did in 2011 but regardless, surcharges will have an effect.
Perhaps by this time next year I will have traded in my oil slobbering, fuel gulping Caterpillar powered Peterbilt for one of Barney’s Tesla or Nikola coal haulers that is scheduled for production this coming Fall.
Okay I have weighed these options very carefully and with much consideration... on second thought you people will just have to deal with higher trucking costs for your coal.
I don’t think we are going to see a return to the high water mark of around $5 anytime soon like we did in 2011 but regardless, surcharges will have an effect.
Perhaps by this time next year I will have traded in my oil slobbering, fuel gulping Caterpillar powered Peterbilt for one of Barney’s Tesla or Nikola coal haulers that is scheduled for production this coming Fall.
Okay I have weighed these options very carefully and with much consideration... on second thought you people will just have to deal with higher trucking costs for your coal.
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I did bring up the fuel in the very beginning, and like I said, fuel is not the factor in the 720 dollar rise in trucking cost for me. Fuel would have to have gone from 3.50 a gallon up to almost 8 dollars a gallon for the cost increase to make sense.
I am lookin for other trucking options, I just wanted to bring it up that it seems the trucking cost has had a huge increase and I don’t see why, even if fuel went up 2 dollars per gallon and ELDs are costing more, I just can’t see it costing 700 more a load.
Quote too high because you don’t want to do the job, maybe that’s the case?
I am lookin for other trucking options, I just wanted to bring it up that it seems the trucking cost has had a huge increase and I don’t see why, even if fuel went up 2 dollars per gallon and ELDs are costing more, I just can’t see it costing 700 more a load.
Quote too high because you don’t want to do the job, maybe that’s the case?
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I am rob, thank you.
Just trying to find something to bring down so they can backhaul coal.
Just trying to find something to bring down so they can backhaul coal.
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Lol I know! Although they hauled Wallasnite back last time, so they have a back haul.
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As I said earlier it is my estimation that it isn’t all diesel fuel. It is fuel, it is the electronic logs, but more importantly it is truck supply and demand..
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It's the law of the jungle. Even at that it's cheap.
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I am suspecting they lost their back haul.. only thing that makes sense.
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Sorry HB, forgot that fuel costs was discussed earlier on. At any rate $700.00 more does seem like a bit of a stretch. Haul rates in general have gone up in the last year or so but that’s a little bit wild.
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It has to be the loss of a backhaul.
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Just want to put in my 2 cents. As a small fleet owner. I have 6 trucks. Tankers. So i can't speak 100% on dump trailers. Only thing i will say is dump trailer rates are low. As far as increase in costs. There is alot of factors in trucking. Running a truck up and down the road is not cheap. And profit margins are thin.
Insurance is a big cost. For my 6 trucks i pay. 45,300 in commercial auto, 2,200 for General Liability. Workmans comp on 5 drivers avg. 14,000 a year.
My tires avg. 400.00 a piece. Brake jobs are 2,000. Oil changes 350.00. My drivers avg. 55 to 70k a year. Medical insurance for my drivers runs 25,000 a year.
Lets not forget truck and traiker payments. A new tractor runs $140,000. New dump trailer is $70,000. Registration is 2,100 a truck.
If anything rates need to still come up. Problem is trucks have been working cheap for too long. Now people are used to it.
Insurance is a big cost. For my 6 trucks i pay. 45,300 in commercial auto, 2,200 for General Liability. Workmans comp on 5 drivers avg. 14,000 a year.
My tires avg. 400.00 a piece. Brake jobs are 2,000. Oil changes 350.00. My drivers avg. 55 to 70k a year. Medical insurance for my drivers runs 25,000 a year.
Lets not forget truck and traiker payments. A new tractor runs $140,000. New dump trailer is $70,000. Registration is 2,100 a truck.
If anything rates need to still come up. Problem is trucks have been working cheap for too long. Now people are used to it.
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Mack man you forgot to add in there, how much does one trip with a tanker make you?
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Depends. Im local and avg about 1,200 a day to the truck. Some days i can do over 2k. Some days i do 350.00 bucks lol. When i bid work. I try to get 4.50+/loaded mile. Since i run tanks, we dont do back hauls.
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1,872,000 per year isn’t that bad...
Even if your operating cost is 1,000,000 per year....
life is good...
Even if your operating cost is 1,000,000 per year....
life is good...