Blaschack Bulk Coal vs Redding Oil Treated Bulk coal
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I am looking for some advice on the bulk coal I will be getting. One place near me sells Blaschak coal, the other is Redding oil treated coal. Anyone burn oil treated? Most places I have called recommend the Blaschak coal. Both of these places deliver in bulk which is what I would like to do unless there is a big advantage to getting the bagged coal. I have a large shop and plenty of room for a 3 ton bin.
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BLASCHAK also lightly oils there coal to keep the dust down. I've been burnin it for 10 yrs with no complaints. Never tried any other brand so can't really speak on the REDDING. As in--if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Like Fred, I've never tried Redding, but I have used the Blaschak bagged nut and was pleased with it. I get my bulk from a local dealer who said he goes to several breakers in the same area as Blaschak- the Mahanoy coal seam.
Reports on Redding over the past few years seem to be mixed.
Lehigh is increasing their into distributing throughout NYS including western NY. A lot of members have switched to it and seem very pleased. I've tried a few bags and thought it was good. You might check for dealers in your area by pm'ing member Lehighanthricitematt in that same coal reviews section of the forum . Coal Prices & Quality, Coal Dealer Inquiries & Reviews
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Like Fred, I've never tried Redding, but I have used the Blaschak bagged nut and was pleased with it. I get my bulk from a local dealer who said he goes to several breakers in the same area as Blaschak- the Mahanoy coal seam.
Reports on Redding over the past few years seem to be mixed.
Lehigh is increasing their into distributing throughout NYS including western NY. A lot of members have switched to it and seem very pleased. I've tried a few bags and thought it was good. You might check for dealers in your area by pm'ing member Lehighanthricitematt in that same coal reviews section of the forum . Coal Prices & Quality, Coal Dealer Inquiries & Reviews
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Because of the reports I've seen about the Reading coal being poorly sized, loaded with fines and having a tendency to clinker, I would definitely choose the Blaschak.
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Cannot speak of their BULK NUT, but... BAGGED NUT Sized READING whether bagged for Tractor Supply Co or in their own labeled BAG is far from the best, for the same reasons stated above.
Except I didn't experience the clinkers (white ash) but the unburnt lumps of shale and the occasional rock were not welcome sights all wedged up in/on the grates either.
Some have reported both the READING and TSC BAGGED RICE to be good products.
It's just that READING needs some serious Quality Control on Bagging their Nut though.
Except I didn't experience the clinkers (white ash) but the unburnt lumps of shale and the occasional rock were not welcome sights all wedged up in/on the grates either.
Some have reported both the READING and TSC BAGGED RICE to be good products.
It's just that READING needs some serious Quality Control on Bagging their Nut though.
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Thank you for the input everyone. The place I want to deliver my coal in bulk sells Blashak so next step is building the coal bin in my shop. I think I’ll start with 3 tons seeing as I’ve never burned coal and don’t know how much I’ll use. I think the price was $240 a ton in bulk but he did say it might go down in the near future.
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240 is not bad for western NY.
Figure about 40 cubic feet of space per ton. But, if it's going to be put into the bin by a shute, or auger tube, you have to allow enough height, and/or, width for the pile to taper up to about a 45 degree cone.
My basement bins are 6 feet deep (5x8 ft wide) and big enough to hold 6 tons each, but there isn't enough head room to fill them without having to push the coal into the corners using a garden hoe and reaching in from the bin doorway. So, they really only hold about four tons before it piles up under the shute high enough to block the shute.
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Figure about 40 cubic feet of space per ton. But, if it's going to be put into the bin by a shute, or auger tube, you have to allow enough height, and/or, width for the pile to taper up to about a 45 degree cone.
My basement bins are 6 feet deep (5x8 ft wide) and big enough to hold 6 tons each, but there isn't enough head room to fill them without having to push the coal into the corners using a garden hoe and reaching in from the bin doorway. So, they really only hold about four tons before it piles up under the shute high enough to block the shute.
Paul
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The only time I experienced a rash of puff-backs was when I oiled some of my coal. I used mineral oil from TSC, and sprayed a few spritz into each 5 gallon pail of coal. I'll never do it again.
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Yes it will be unloaded with an auger I believe. Maybe I will build it with 160 cubic feet of space for the “piling” of the coal. That should be enough space I hope.
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3 tons will fit in 128 cubic foot box. 4 x 4 x 8. My experince with nut, rice would probably take up less. It all depends on what type of burner you buy.
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It would be rice coal. I have considered making an outdoor unit but the piling snow made me think twice. Keeping it in the shop at least keeps it from being buried in snow.
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I have burnt reading bagged, it was absolutely terrible, way to many fines and horribly sized. I have burnt reading bulk, sized decently, but low heat output and high ash quantity, I’ve burnt blaschak bagged, it was descent stuff, I’ve burnt kimmel bagged, also descent stuff, but by far the best I’ve burnt is this lehigh bulk, high heat output, and low ash quantity. I will be getting my second tractor trailer load this summer from them.
I haven’t used any type of oiled coal.
I haven’t used any type of oiled coal.
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Another vote for Blaschak. I have burned Kimmel, Reading, and Blaschak -- all bagged nut size. Blaschak has been the most consistently good.