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Vermonster
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac Gotha 713 Rest in peace! Chubby Coal Stove
Coal Size/Type: anthracite nut coal
Other Heating: oil boiler
Location: Bellows Falls, VT

Post Sun. Dec. 22, 2013 9:51 pm

Now that I know pea coal is different than rice coal is that why my stove makes good heat but not too overbearing heat? The stove is a surdiac gotha 713. I am happy with the stove and what it makes for heat, but I have been wondering if it could be hotter. Don't get me wrong I am pleased with coal heat. When I read the owners manual the other day it said use pea coal. Is it ok run the last 2 bags I bought? Will it hurt my stove running the last of rice coal? Like I said I am new with this coal stuff. Yes I am using rice coal at the moment.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea
Location: Kent CT

Post Sun. Dec. 22, 2013 9:56 pm

You will get more heat with pea coal because it is able to burn faster.

Remember it is a circulator stove so only the front will give strong radiant heat.

Raise the hopper for pea coal for a deeper bed and longer burns.

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2001Sierra
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90 Chimney vent
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Buderus Oil Boiler 3115-34
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker 90 Chimney Vent
Location: Wynantskill NY, 10 miles from Albany

Post Sun. Dec. 22, 2013 10:16 pm

With my old Buderus 3115 pea coal just seemed to suffocate itself. That was many years ago, no forum, I just had to make my own conclusions. I may have been wrong, but it just seemed to run at lower temps and did not get going like nut did. European stove with a shaker grate, hopper fed.

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Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
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Coal Size/Type: nut and pea
Location: Kent CT

Post Sun. Dec. 22, 2013 10:20 pm

2001Sierra wrote:With my old Buderus 3115 pea coal just seemed to suffocate itself. That was many years ago, no forum, I just had to make my own conclusions. I may have been wrong, but it just seemed to run at lower temps and did not get going like nut did. European stove with a shaker grate, hopper fed.

He was burning rice coal and wanted to know about pea. The Surdiac has a shallow bed so air has no problem getting through.

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2001Sierra
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90 Chimney vent
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Buderus Oil Boiler 3115-34
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker 90 Chimney Vent
Location: Wynantskill NY, 10 miles from Albany

Post Sun. Dec. 22, 2013 10:22 pm

OOPS :oops:

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Lightning
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Overmodified/Bored out Clayton 1537
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Awesome Size
Location: Olean, NY

Post Mon. Dec. 23, 2013 10:12 am

Wow, its amazing rice coal will even burn at all in a hand fed. Must be good draft lol. Pea will probably do much better though. :D Shouldn't hurt anything using up the rest of your rice..

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lsayre
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)
Location: N/E Ohio, between Medina and Wadsworth

Post Mon. Dec. 23, 2013 11:18 am

Pea should burn hotter than rice, and nut should burn hotter than pea. Your stove may recommend pea only, so keep that in mind before attempting nut.
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skobydog
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anthracite
Location: Greenfield MA

Post Mon. Dec. 23, 2013 11:54 am

Where's the stove located and how many square feet are you trying to heat?
Hitzer 50-93
Open Floor Plan
Stove is located on the first floor/living room
Heating appr 2,200 sq ft
House built 1976
Moderate Insulation

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Rob R.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy
Location: Chazy, NY

Post Mon. Dec. 23, 2013 12:53 pm

Lightning wrote:Wow, its amazing rice coal will even burn at all in a hand fed. Must be good draft lol. Pea will probably do much better though. :D Shouldn't hurt anything using up the rest of your rice..
I have burned buck in hand-feds before, and it definitely requires a strong draft. I am surprised that he got rice to burn successfully.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite
Location: NEPA

Post Mon. Dec. 23, 2013 5:58 pm

Lightning wrote:Wow, its amazing rice coal will even burn at all in a hand fed.
My cousin used to be able to burn rice in a Franco Belge, he got it for free. He had to get a fire going first with pea coal, I don't know how you would do it otherwise without all the coal falling through the grates.
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