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Johnshan
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Post Fri. Dec. 17, 2010 3:55 pm

Hi guys, this is my 4th year burning Blaschak Coal, my father has been using it for 10+ years.

I store my coal on pallets in my yard with a tarp wrapped around them.

This year, every single bag is frozen solid, and we do not even have any snow here yet.

I have burned through about 30 bags now and it is not getting better. In years past I have been able to bring a bag indoors and dump it right in the stove, now I need to thaw out every bag. The pallets were sealed when I got them and I covered them immediately, no water got into them from my handling/storage.

Is anyone else noticing this?

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Post Fri. Dec. 17, 2010 4:25 pm

You will likely hear from many forum members who say it's not excessively wet when bagged. My experience has been that virtually every bag of Blaschak rice I have opened has had too much water in it.

Mike

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Post Fri. Dec. 17, 2010 4:34 pm

I have had the same experience with Reading Anthracite. No big deal, just stay a few bags ahead and let them thaw. You can also cut a bag open a day early to let it dry.

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Post Fri. Dec. 17, 2010 9:59 pm

Well my issue is that the stove is in the center of my great room, and I really don't like having bags of coal in line waiting.

Like I said, never had this issue in the past it just seems this year that the water content is excessively high.

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Post Fri. Dec. 17, 2010 9:59 pm

Pacowy wrote:You will likely hear from many forum members who say it's not excessively wet when bagged. My experience has been that virtually every bag of Blaschak rice I have opened has had too much water in it.

Mike
Funny you say that.
We installed a Harman stoker the other day for someone, and we had Blaschak rice.
It was VERY wet..
We ended up cleaning a good part of the floor, and spreading some out to
let it dry. Told the customer to at least cut some bags open to help it along.
Now... I'm using their nut, at home, and have had zero water problems....
In fairness, it was purchased this summer. The rice was delivered fairly recently...

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Post Fri. Dec. 17, 2010 10:18 pm

I also buy my Blaschak Nut in the summer--I buy bulk & my bins have a 4" space under--made out of rough cut--I'v never had puddles or any significant water under them--come on guys,they spray this stuff to keep the dust down when bagging--buy bulk or accept the fact that you're going to have moisture/water problems--my three ton measures 4X4X8 how much space does bagged on pallets take for 3 ton? Those plastic bags aren't very good for any drying. :)
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Post Sat. Dec. 18, 2010 10:34 am

My only experience has been with their rice. I wouldn't expect much of a problem with the bigger sizes, but the rice pieces are closer together and seem to hold the water more.

Mike

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Post Sat. Dec. 18, 2010 11:24 am

the source...
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Post Sat. Dec. 18, 2010 11:28 am

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thats all rice coal piled up outside....
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Post Sat. Dec. 18, 2010 11:32 am

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and for christmas...
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so see its not a black shack after all!! its red..... 8-)
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Post Sat. Dec. 18, 2010 12:54 pm

nice photo shoot PE---so,that's where it all happens :!: :)
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Post Sat. Dec. 18, 2010 10:33 pm

But, where is it? Not just what's listed on Blaschak's Web site but an actual location that exists in Google maps. It's like they want to keep it a secret.

This doesn't help ....

Blaschak Coal Corporation
P.O. Box 12 Mahanoy City, PA 17948

Conveniently located off Interstate 81 Exits 131B (Mahanoy City) or 124B (Frackville)
Yanche
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Post Sat. Dec. 18, 2010 10:49 pm

My bags are stored in the garage and when it's really cold they're often at least partially frozen. One drop from chest height on the concrete and they're ready to go into the hopper.
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Post Sun. Dec. 19, 2010 7:19 am

There will always be moisture in bagged coal. I burned Kimmels before - was always damp. Now I burn Blaschak - some damp, some dry -- depends on where the bags were on the pallet -- top, bottom, or middle. You have a sealed bag with very small holes that don't breathe very well. Then you have the pallets on a truck going through all kinds of temperature changes & humidity levels .... then it sits at the dealer of your choice outside ( at least mine does) in all kinds of weather. I don't care how many times it's wrapped with plastic -- water and/or moisture is getting in .. and it's not going to come out until the bag is opened.

My bags have been in my basement since April '10 ... so 8 months. I have barnacles growing out of the vent holes from the moisture reacting with the iron in the coal ...
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Post Sun. Dec. 19, 2010 10:10 am

Yanche wrote:But, where is it? Not just what's listed on Blaschak's Web site but an actual location that exists in Google maps
40.805794,-76.173095 ;)

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