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jaimz23
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Post Tue. Jun. 15, 2010 6:29 pm

Hello All,

I have a few quick questions. I'll be brief because I have to go mow my lawn. This is my first year with coal and I just got a 1 yr. old Harman Trident SF-260.

1. I am about to build my coal bin outside. I live in Susquehanna County. I need to know what the minimum delivery size (ton) is so I know the minimum size to build my bin. I know there are a quite a few places to get it from, so any that will deliver to here and have a solid coal reputation are preferred.

2. What size would be best for my boiler? I was thinking nut?

3. What is the average price per ton delivered? I know there are many places so just a ball park so I know what I am in for.

Thanks a bunch!

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freetown fred
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Post Tue. Jun. 15, 2010 10:03 pm

Up here our guy doesn't like to bring less then 3 Ton on his 6 wheeler--$230.00 a ton pretty good average.I use nut in my Hitzer 50-93 hand fired--it gets me through the winter, heating a 200 yr old farmhouse---2800 sq--2 story--be patient,you'll get more responses :)
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Post Tue. Jun. 15, 2010 10:35 pm

Thanks. My house was built in 1904 also 2 story about 2000 sq.ft. Only one zone in the house which heats the entire downstairs and the bathroom upstairs, but not the 2 bedrooms upstairs. Weird I know, but the bedrooms actually stay pretty warm all in all and I plan on adding another zone and piping for the 2 upstairs bedrooms next year. I actually say a place called Agel Coal Co. on here it is very close to me in Scranton. Any opinions on prices coal quality delivery etc. along with any of the other questions I asked in my last post of course.

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Post Wed. Jun. 16, 2010 5:02 am

jaimz23 wrote:
1. I am about to build my coal bin outside. I live in Susquehanna County. I need to know what the minimum delivery size (ton) is so I know the minimum size to build my bin. I know there are a quite a few places to get it from, so any that will deliver to here and have a solid coal reputation are preferred.

Hello and welcome - have you wandered through the archives for previous postings on building coal bins? You may be able to find some helpful information there. Like Fred said, this is the slow time on the forum, not everyone checks in everyday but they'll be around eventually and then you'll get some more input to your questions. Lisa
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Post Wed. Jun. 16, 2010 7:31 am

Do a search for Coal Bin Pics and or Sizes.

Here is one thread
How Big Do You Make a Coal Bin?

You would have to ask Your delivery company, they vary from 2-6 ton, my guy usually does 4 ton min. but usually ends up closer to 5 ton, alway have a little extra in your bin for "Just in case". Also, different companies charge differently, so you would have to call them to find out. Probably anywhere from $200-250 delivered/ton depending on where you are.

Coal Size depends on your type of boiler, hand fed vs. stoker, etc....
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jaimz23
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Post Wed. Jun. 23, 2010 11:01 pm

I actually called a place called Agel and I asked them a price delivered and the lady quoted me a price of $190.00 delivered. Well, let me rephrase, she mumbled something about Hamlin and $190.00 delivered and it being $200.00 normally and it being $10.00 less for the summer = $190.00. So needless to say, I was still a little confused. Anyway, I was led to believe that it was $190.00 delivered to my house with a 4 ton minimum and something mumbled about Hamlin. lol I really need someone that takes credit cards and I forgot to ask them if they do...guess I need to call them again. She did ask where I lived though...so maybe it is $190.00 delivered??

Also, I changed my mind and my basement is going to be my coal bin. I have just a crappy dirt floor basement with stacked stone walls and all I need to figure out, is a way to remove some of the stones and get some sort of window/metal funnel to allow the coal to be delivered right through the wall area where I removed the stones. I might even frame something out if I can, but I really don't think I can afford a window. I was thinking something a little less expensive if I can. Any ideas??

I'm just going to use 2 existing walls in the basement and build a basic L shape against those 2 walls and allow the coal to be dumped right into there.

Any comments would be appreciated.

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Post Thu. Jun. 24, 2010 5:43 am

Around here many houses have or had an iron door in the foundation just big enough to get a coal chute in. I don’t know where you can get one though. The old ones probably end up in a scrap yard and new ones are anyone’s guess. Be careful if you plan on pulling rocks from the foundation. If they are just set in clay you can easily loosen up a much bigger hole than you wanted. I would mortar the surrounding stones in place. Always be careful working on stone foundations so that you don’t do more harm than good.
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Post Thu. Jun. 24, 2010 11:26 pm

Here is a Company that makes coal chute doors 8 x 16 and bigger sizes also Warner lumber yard in Pine Grove Pa sell them

http://www.templealuminumfoundry.com/builders.php
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