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coalfan
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Post by coalfan » Sat. Jun. 18, 2022 7:39 pm

lehigh *censored* on the workn man thanxthats bull *censored* and corporate greed thanx lehigh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 
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Post by MINO » Sun. Jun. 19, 2022 6:16 pm

Better safe than sorry

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Post by MINO » Sun. Jun. 19, 2022 6:17 pm

Better safe than sorry

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McGiever
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Coal Size/Type: PEA,NUT,STOVE /ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump and some Solar

Post by McGiever » Mon. Jun. 20, 2022 10:05 am

MINO wrote:
Sun. Jun. 19, 2022 6:17 pm
Better safe than sorry
Well done my friend!!!
And Sure beats whining and cursing about too! 😁

 
Wal
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Post by Wal » Tue. Jun. 21, 2022 4:18 am

Not much better this side of the pond , works out at $783 per tonne .

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Post by olpanrider » Tue. Jun. 21, 2022 1:06 pm

I'm in southwest Ohio, so I was wondering if it was worth making a trip to pennsylvania to pick up a couple ton of rice. prices around here usually run higher than pennsylvania. plus Ohio taxes coal, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe
pennsylvania does? anyways I got on here to see what going prices was an seen this thread so I figured I better call around.

I contacted Russel Brothers in Washington Pa.(426 miles round trip) they're $380 for a ton of bagged rice works out to $7.60 a bag
called Pete at champagne coal and stove (hes about 20 miles from me) he's 400 a ton plus 7.5% tax so that's $8.00 a bag + tax (he was $7.25 + tax a bag last year). even at that price it's not worth $100 in gas plus a day of driving.
good news is I called Tractor supply in Urbana Ohio (13 miles) they gave me a rain check and locked me in at $324.5 a ton which works out to $6.49 a bag + tax. so I ordered 2 tons They said it may be 2 weeks or 2 months before delivery but I'm locked in on the price.$6.49 a bag is the same price I paid last year at Tractor supply
I Heat my 24x40 shop with a Reading Juniata Stove and even when it gets down in the teens my stove never gets above a idle and maintains the shop near 60 which is plenty warm for a workshop so I only burn about 2 bags a week so 2 tons will last me a long time.

 
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Post by coalfan » Tue. Jun. 21, 2022 1:49 pm

good find op !


 
hank2
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Post by hank2 » Tue. Jun. 21, 2022 3:18 pm

No sales tax on home heating coal or fuel oil in Pa. Highest road fuel taxes in the land though.

 
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Post by ColdHouse » Wed. Jun. 29, 2022 5:18 am

Just got word from their logistics person that the load is going to be shipping and arriving in next couple of days. I was paying $300 cash per ton when I began burning coal years ago. I stopped burning coal when oil went down to a little over $1 per gallon. I had a premonition last fall to burn coal so I bought 4 skids, 9600 pounds. During all the years of burning oil coal never dipped below $300 per ton in my area. Every investment I have ever made has not turned out. The only thing that ever makes me money is my hard work and effort. I am getting ready to bite the bullet on the solar. I decided to have SunPower put in a system. Going to cost around $50,000 net out of pocket after tax credits. I am confident it will not be the worst thing I have ever done. I have the assurance that at least I will be getting something back from my cash outlay. I will try to conserve my coal this winter. We have less entitled people living here. So I will try to use less coal. This spring I purchased a couple more skids from my local retailer. So with the coal I have on hand, I would hope to have enough to heat my home for the next 4-6 years. If oil goes down, I will just let those rocks stay outdoors. Eventually the cost for everything we purchase escalates. So if I cannot beat the market or gainfully invest, I can at least solidify some of my expenditures.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Wed. Jun. 29, 2022 8:52 am

ColdHouse wrote:
Wed. Jun. 29, 2022 5:18 am
I decided to have SunPower put in a system. Going to cost around $50,000 net out of pocket after tax credits.
That is a huge investment. Are you planning to transition to some form of electric heat?

 
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Coal Size/Type: PEA,NUT,STOVE /ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump and some Solar

Post by McGiever » Wed. Jun. 29, 2022 10:15 am

With solar I like ground source heat pump with a COP of 5 and SEER of 40.

Then with Solar/battery-backup the whole house generator is coordinated to only charge the battery and runs very little but is then loaded down for best use. Then cycles off and remains off until next time not enough battery storage.
There is plenty more to this but this should get the point across.

I know this sounds expensive and it is. But I am blessed with the skills and know how to DIY and very much enjoy doing the work so for cost of equipment I’m ready to go.

 
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Coal Size/Type: rice

Post by lincolnmania » Wed. Jun. 29, 2022 11:46 am

Just got coal. it was at the old new price of $287 a ton delivered.
The man that works for Brandon said that blaschak is raiding prices another 50 dollars a ton on monday to $350 a ton at the breaker.
he only brought me 3.25 ton, someone elses order that they were unable to deliver.
still on the lookout for more coal. will probably haul a few loads this summer.

 
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Post by lincolnmania » Wed. Jun. 29, 2022 12:04 pm

Just got a raincheck for 100 bags of rice coal from tsc. 349 a ton is cheaper than blaschak's new price. plus my bin is pretty full.

 
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Post by ColdHouse » Wed. Jun. 29, 2022 6:32 pm

Rob R. wrote:
Wed. Jun. 29, 2022 8:52 am
That is a huge investment. Are you planning to transition to some form of electric heat?
Probably not. We average 1500kwh per month at current rates that is $412.50. If electricity increases 2% per year that same 1500 kwh will cost me $663 in 25 years. This system will pay for itself in less than 10 years.

 
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tcalo
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Post by tcalo » Wed. Jun. 29, 2022 7:23 pm

Providing it lasts 10 years. Factor in repair costs!


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